I thought this comment was so wonderful I'm putting it here as a post all by itself. Thank you so much, whoever you are, for writing this heartfelt cry from one who grew up with an abusive father.
"Staying for the kids?" – possibly the most damaging alternative. My mum made us stay with our abusive father and I would have preferred live on the streets. If you knew how incredibly DAMAGED I am and my sisters are from the abuse, you would know that "staying for the kids" is hardly an option.
My advice would be to find a refuge and go on Centrelink [Govt Welfare Office in Australia]. YES this may be "doing it tough" for a while and making some material sacrifices but its BETTER than putting your children through psychological trauma and forcing them to live hyper-vigilantly.
Talking from experience - when we left dad we were certainly poorer. But they were the happier years of my life. As opposed to the 10 years lived under the abuse of my own father.
If you are a mother - your instincts should call you to protect. Protect your children at any cost - not just for the sake of their safety but as a christian - for the sake of JUSTICE.
God requires us to "SEEK JUSTICE, love mercy and walk humbly with your God" Micah 6:8
Please consider seeking justice for your own children. I know its hard and you will certainly cop a lot of persecution from others, even christians as they dont understand. But remember also that it is not our requirement to "fear man" and care what others think of us. Rather, we must do what we feel God's will is.
God asked Abraham to offer his own son as a sacrifice and although others would call this murder! Abraham was willing to trust God and be obedient to him.
PLEASE be obedient to God and be his ambassadors of Justice. As the carer of your children you have a responsibility to show them what is right. By remaining in your abusive households and allowing them to witness and experience abuse, you are showing them that "this is okay behaviour". This is NOT justice. And that is NOT what God intends for us. I pray that you come to understand the urgency of protecting your children from further harm. And that you dont wait twenty years and see the sad reality of what it has done to your own when they have grown up as damaged adults.
I'm not opening the comments facility on this post here, because I've also posted it over at A Cry For Justice. If you want to comment, head on over there and make your comment. Then we can all have one conversation, rather than two separate ones.
Apr 23, 2012
Lundy Bancroft is considered one of the world's experts on domestic abuse.
Here is a transcript of his video presentation "Domestic Violence in Popular Culture" Part 2. It has been transcribed and published here with Lundy's permission.
You can watch the video here: Lundy Bancroft pt2 on DV in Popular Culture
Is this a male on female crime?
The answer is yes; it is overwhelmingly a male on female crime. Certainly there are lesbian batterers who are abusing their female partners; there are gay male batterers who are abusing their male partners. But the people who are dying are not men who are being abused by women. I certainly know couples where the man is the nice guy and the woman is the not-nice person. It has nothing to do with who is nice people or who's not nice people. It's not that image of the world where somehow men are bad and women are good. But it's about tyranny and it's about fear and intimidation and it's about the belief that you have the right to create fear and intimidation, and that you can count on other people to back you up.
And when you really look at all those factors, how many women are going to be able to create that electrified, charged atmosphere of intimidation and degradation over a man, and get that electrified, charged atmosphere of intimidation and degradation that makes domestic violence what it is?
I think it's very important to say this always in the modern world because the abusers have been able to create all this [hand gesture suggesting “misinformation”] … people are apologetic now about referring to this as a male on female crime. And we need to stop apologising for that. That's overwhelmingly what it is: you've got to call things what they are. It's very important as we look at some of this media where you get some specific messages suggesting that it's a roughly equal crime, a roughly equal problem.
You know, all we have to do is go through our own common sense and our own experience. Ask women that you know. “How many of you have ever been involved with a guy that you ended up really really scared of?” And you're going to find actually that almost every woman has at least one experience of that somewhere in her life. And you're going to find very few men that have any experience of having lived with someone that they were really really scared of. They may have lived with some people that none of us would like very much, but that's really different from living with someone who you have to spend a lot of your time wondering what the hell they're going to do, and go to sleep wondering whether he might kill you, and wondering whether your kids are going to be okay, and so forth.
I want us to look very carefully and directly at certain questions and work our way through conclusion and work our way through declaring...
And I also want to say I don't believe in a dispassionate, academic way of thinking about domestic violence. And I've done some academic writing and I believe in that when it's the right place for it. The right outlook is outrage – about what's being done to women.
Now, I can get away with outrage about what's being done to women, because I'm a man! Women, unfortunately, get slammed for being outraged about male violence.
And I'm specialising a lot these days in the custody of women, where women are supposed to come into court after being beaten, raped, demeaned, degraded, impoverished and all that this man has done to the quality of their lie, and they're not supposed to be mad about it! And in fact if they are mad about it, that's going to be to the court to raise very serious questions about whether they are an appropriate custodial parents for their children.
So I am going to continue, and I hope that everyone will join me in continuing to speak with outrage, and in supporting people's rights to be outraged and specifically also in supporting women's right to be outraged about want abusers are doing to women, and what they're doing to the quality of life for all of us.
And in one of my presentations I go through what abusers are costing us in terms of injury to women, what they're costing us in injury to children, what they're costing us in mental health damage and mental health expenses, what they're costing us in health care and how that's adding to our health care bills, how much of our community law enforcement costs that abusers are the cause of because abusers are the root of, according to various studies, close to 30% of all police calls. So consider abusers as responsible for 30% of law enforcement, prosecution, jail and everything. And on and on and on. I have a whole rap about it.
So our outrage should go beyond what specific abusers are doing to specific women and to specific children. It should also be about how we're doing economically in our communities, how safe we can feel in our communities, how much we can trust each other, how our court system works, how many lies are around (they work very very hard to spread lies) – they're at the root at a lot of the problems that we have.
Before we start looking at media influences, I want to talk a little bit about the abuser mentality, because you can see so much in what we see and listen when we go through the examples from media about the abuser mentality.
We have an image in our society of an abuser as someone who is a tortured, out of control individual who is tormented and his violence towards women is a product of his pain. And then that of course, that view, I shouldn’t say of course, that view lends itself very easily, though we don’t notice it and that’s what I shouldn’t say of course, but it actually lends itself very easily then to starting to look for the ways that the woman is to blame because if she’s doing this because of how much pain he’s in, well she’s probably one of the main people causing him pain, right? Anyone who’s ever been in a partner relationship, at some point in their life, can tell you that once you’re in a partner relationship, one of the people who can cause you the most pain is your partner. So if his pain is the problem, then naturally we’re going to start looking at her and looking at the pain that she is causing him so we have slipped right down the slope into the victim blaming as soon as we start to get caught up in his pain as a supposed cause of his problems.
What I’ve discovered from my years of working with abusers is that my clients didn’t turn out to be in any special pain They certainly didn’t look to me like they were in any more pain than non-abusive men. I’ve certainly known plenty of non-abusive men who have lived very painful lives for all kinds of reasons and I’ve had a lot of clients who were absolutely top-dog, I mean everything was going great for them, they were making lots of money, they were popular, everyone liked them, except us and the women who had to live with them of course, and often their children.
The abuser works this stuff, to some extent consciously, to some extent unconsciously, but it doesn’t really matter, in fact whether it is conscious or unconscious, the point is he works this stuff. He works getting people to feel sorry for him, he works playing himself as a very tormented individual, and once he has he has got you in there, he works quickly into getting you to think about her as the cause of his torment. And we’ll see that again in one of the snippets, in one of the media selections we’ll be looking at today.
So if it’s not about his inner pain, what’s it about?
It’s about his mentality.
The abuser’s problem is actually not very much located in his feeling world. Psychologically, there’s been some really interesting research that’s been done particularly by a researcher named Ed Gondolf – psychologically he turns out not to be very different from non-abusers, minor differences but not very much, he’s much more different in his values and attitudes, his mentality.
A very interesting study was done that looked at boys of batterers and their process of growing up to become abusers themselves, because a lot of them grow up to become abusers of women themselves, and two different studies, well actually there’s a third, that have compared: Is it the way these boys are wounded growing up that’s leading them to become batterers, or is the way that they’re being indoctrinated?
And all three of these studies came to the conclusion that the emotional effects didn’t turn out to be statistically to be good explanations of why they became perpetrators. The emotional effects caused all kinds of other problems, it’s not that they didn’t cause serious problems, they did, but they didn’t cause out to be what causes perpetration in the next generation, when they reach adulthood, it’s the indoctrination. In other words, what all three of these studies have found is that boys who don’t buy into the abuser’s ways of thinking, who don’t look down on women, who don’t become really oriented towards domination, who aren’t contemptuous, who aren’t superior, who don’t make all kinds of excuses for their violence, actually interestingly, don’t turn out to have any higher rate of becoming an abuser than boys who grew up in non-violent homes.
In other words, you growing up around a batterer does not increase your chance of becoming a batterer yourself except to the extent that you take on your dad’s mentality.
So the problem is in his mind, not his heart.
And I’m going to give you a four minute version of what’s normally a two hour discussion but the key points in his mentality are:
He believes in his right to rule, not necessarily in all fronts of his life but when it comes to a partner, he believes in his right to rule. He’s going to control her in all kinds of ways that usually don’t involve violence and this is one of the points that I think is important to get, you don’t have to use direct physical intimidation a lot. If you use it once in a while, that’s enough to keep people really cautious around you and then you can control them in all kinds of other ways. So day to day life with an abuser is not usually about outright violence or outright rape, it’s usually about being demeaning, being degraded, being told what you can do, being told what you can’t do, having your self-confidence undermined, being made to feel stupid and so forth.
A huge percentage of my clients, and I didn’t keep statistics of this but the stories were just there over and over and over again during the years I was working with abusers, they were using the woman’s workplace in one way or another as part of the venue for his abuse.
I learned about this from the women but sometimes my clients would directly admit it, constant phone calls, calling her five, ten fifteen times a day at work, making it very hard for her to get any work done and also making her start to have a lot of annoyance and upset of the part of her employer because their irritation at all of these phone calls is going towards her. Showing up unexpectedly at work to make her feel unsafe, injuring her in ways that were causing her to miss work. Causing her so much emotional turmoil through tearing her down that she couldn’t concentrate at work, couldn’t get much done. Becoming particularly difficult if she were starting to do well at work, in other words, he liked it when she was bringing in money, but he doesn’t like it if her works starts to be a source of a lot of pride, or it starts to look like she is going to really advance, or it might help her to become independent, cause that could mean independent of him, so he gets particularly disruptive in a way, the better she’s doing, the more it’s really starting to go somewhere. And I could give you lots of other examples. The workplace is so often an important aspect of how he’s going after her and how he’s affecting her.
The abuser really sees himself as superior to his partner and he believes he is entitled to a relationship that works completely on his terms and that he’s entitled to all kinds of double standards. There’s a completely different set of rules [for him as compared to her].
end of transcript.
Mar 28, 2012
Mar 4, 2012
On Jeff Crippen's post about John MacArthur's teaching that endangers victims of domestic abuse an anonymous survivor has written:
"I am wondering why more people don’t write to or about such authors [like John MacArthur], in an effort to raise the awareness about what abuse is and how such teachings are dangerous. I know Natalie Collins wrote an open letter about Stormie Omartian’s Praying Wife book. I think if many of us do it, and obviously, avoid slander or hostility, it should have an effect."
Feb 26, 2012
Every survivor of abuse will identify with those words. Saying "I am abused" means passing through a membrane into a whole new reality. In this new world everything is different, scary, confronting...
- "I'm one of those women - a victim of abuse!"
- I'm afraid I'll be ostracised, judged, disbelieved, shunned... [You name it]
Like the surface tension on the skin of water, or the surface tension on a soap bubble, there is a tension at that membrane. Will the victim pass through it and acknowledge "Yes, I am abused." Or will she shy away to avoid going through into that unknown world where everything will (at first) seem upside down, inside out and back to front?
Only when she passed through the membrane and has educated herself more about abuse will she realise that the world that was actually upside down, inside out and back to front, was the world the abuser imposed on her.
Once she's learned to breathe the air in the new world, and smell the flowers and fruit (and maybe even grow some) she realises that this new world is actually the place where things are upright, right side out, and facing forwards.
Dear reader, whether you're approaching that membrane, newly transitioned, or have been across for years, or whether you just know someone on that journey, I'd love you to share what it's been like for you.
And if you've gone through the membrane, what was the thing that precipitated you going through it? What was the thing that overcame the surface tension?